's the right thing to do. >> we're roughly two years from the timetable set by president obama to withdraw our forces from afghanistan. today, another unfortunate story about an afghan soldier, firing on and killing some nato forces, not u.s., i don't believe. many people look at that and say, why don't we get out now, it's not going to work. it's not going to succeed. do you agree? >> i think afghanistan can succeed. but i also think it's important for our country on two levels. first, we do have an emotional commitment to afghanistan, a responsibility. we went there in 2001 for our interests, to go after al qaeda. not because the afghans asked us. and we raised expectations among females and other parts of society. so i think there's an emotional commitment. but there's also a geostrategic imperative. stability in that region is important for the world. it's important for america. hundreds of thousands of eep soldiers there. >> how could we hope for stability if we're out entirely in two years and the taliban knows we're going to be out? and even with 70,000 troops on the ground right now, i